Fresh off the camera - New video from Aspergers Girl

[Shiroi Tora]

Anything by you would be great I am sure.  I would also like to know what an average day for you is.  The parts you find most difficult...and those parts you especially enjoy.   And of course...some more of your greatest problems and your method of coping or conquering them....and some of your greatest achievements and how you got yourself there. 

I simply love your enthusiasm and your compassionate heart.  Please...share more of yourself in your videos.   You are a fun and interesting person...I enjoy watching your videos.

[Aspergers Girl]

My opinion on the whole cat rubbish bin thing.

Mary Bale putting a cat into a rubbish bin - and worse stuff out there	LQ | HQ

[Shiroi Tora]

OK...I just watched the video.  I can understand the outrage...it was premeditated...and not a joke.  You see her go up to the cat...stroke it...look at the bin...look around to see if she could get away with it...and then putting in the cat, closing the lid and walking away fast...no laughter...not going back to take the cat out and play with it and laugh at its momentary surprise and to console it....it was no joke.

It was..and is not...about the cat.  Neither with her...nor with the outrage from people from around the world.  It is in the way she used affection to ensnare an innocent being...how she dispassionately picked up the innocent...and loving (the cat's response to her stroking was in giving love back) sentient being...planning her act...looking around...thinking about it and her odds of getting caught...then throwing it away...in essence betraying love and goodness...a sacred bond that should be there in all beings...she, condemned it to death in her mind...the trash gets compacted.

It was a predatory act of dominance on a completely innocent and defenseless creature....through deception...that unglued many.  It is the method of operation of Pedophiles...that is what struck so many to heart (not that she is one...just that the method is so disdainful).

Remember...for a woman...and yes...especially bad for a woman to do so because in almost all societies the woman is the chief caregiver of children...to not have basic morals to prohibit her from doing evil against the innocent and helpless (children) is to place fear into the hearts of all where trust must be a given.  Women cook the food for the family...take care of the children...there is no stabilization of society if morals are not clung to.  A woman in trust of the most sacred bonds who cannot be trusted to not poison the food or to not abuse children when no one is there to catch her signifies that either she is evil...or that perhaps many more would do such a thing in the absence of authority.  To NOT have outrage is what would be upsetting.  The outrage is directed appropriately...now any act upon that outrage would be unjustifiable...but in the words of Chris Rock...I would understand  .

I also agree that there is no similar outrage for far more heinous acts.  Rarely, though, are the acts shown with such clarity of purpose...the premeditation...the deception using love and receiving it in return...the chance to not do it...and rather she looks around to assure she wouldn't get caught...and the act...then the scurrying away.  It was in the pure and raw evil of the act...not the result.

That is why they have banned any graphic portrayal of late term abortions in public in the U.S. (available under certain circumstances...wink..wink) - were people to see the actual effects...they would not accept it (just to clarify...early term is understandable - 1st trimester...or even better...morning after pill...best of all...protection or abstinence until certain you would take care of any baby that could come about).

That is how we can eat meat...we are not exposed to the slaughter...usually.  When films have come about...procedures are changed to ensure ethical means are used..wink..wink.  There is a purpose to eating meat...we are removed from the act...different.  

Animals, especially pets...represent the pureness, innocence, and all that is supposed to be good in this world....it ties into our Paternal...and woman's Maternal instinct.   They are just as our children.  I used to have dogs....they were family...I could have easily killed another human who attempted to kill any of my family...of course, I would have had to say a human life was in danger had I acted...but that is easily stipulated...I would have been between the attacker and my dogs...he would have had to have gotten past me with a deadly weapon.  Anyway...you see my point.  We have these instincts because pets are so much like children...pure, innocent..loving...trusting...all that is good.  It is an assault upon all that is good by evil...

Yes...she probably won't be doing that again...however...I believe..only because she knows she is going to be watched.  You can bet the authorities are researching any unsolved crimes in the neighborhood...especially against the defenseless.  

Death threats are overboard...and stupid.  She deserves what the law allows...nothing more.  She also deserves no complete trust from those around her...ever more.

[Kresjah]

I think Shiroi is onto something here. The act of doing that to a cat itself is bad, but it is just as much the way she abuses the trust given to her by a helpless and innocent being.

Indeed, there are so many things happening in the world that are more heinous and initially upsetting than that. However, it is seldom we get to see the evil happen "right in front of us". Even if there are ever worse things, I'll stick to animal cruelty for the moment. I've seen a ton of of articles of animals that have been molested and heard about quite a lot of horrible things... but that's the thing; you seldom get to see the actual act in motion. A vivid imagination can conjure up quite a lot of things, but sometimes the "simple and raw" reality can appeal to our senses of unease in a much stronger way. You don't just hear about a woman putting a cat into a rubbish bin, you see a woman which looks like she could be from "your own neighbourhood" (I have taken a bit of liberty in assumptions :p), not just putting it in the bin... how she snares it in, looks around as if the plan has already been formed and the very moment the trust is breached and the deed is being done.

Hanging onto that thought of the "neighbourhood" woman, I guess that also incites both fear and rage. We like to look upon ourselves and consider us and our peers civilized, and that "we are better than that"... only to see that a person that could have been "anyone in your neighbourhood" can do that; the one who invites you to cake every monday, who you play poker with on saturday evenings, or work together with, who you've been friends with from since before you can remember.

Many of the things we hear about are worse, but most of these are very hard to relate to directly. A massacre somewhere, war afflicting innocent, soldiers from somewhere invading a town doing awful things to its populace... for most of us, these are things that are so remote from the touch of reality we feel we live in that we have a hard time connecting to the actual emotions of it. I guess that constantly hearing about stuff like that in the news desensitizes us to it as well.

I think most of us can't relate to the daily rush of running from place to place in order to survive, sounds of guns going off both far and near everyday, and a mob of people running in on us. What we can relate to though is a trash bin, a cat, a person seemingly from "our own" culture... the general imagery portrayed in this video. This is part of the everyday life we feel that we ourselves live in. It may be far less heinous than a lot of other things, but it is something we have a far greater relation too.

Going as far as death threats is unnecessary and immature in my opinion. I could have understood it if it was a good smack (and note that I say "a good smack", not a mauling), but death threats are rarely (if ever) warranted. That is in many ways just as bad. She does need help though; that wasn't just a joke or anything, and the way it was done and especially seemingly without any emotional reaction afterwards seem to witness of some bigger picture behind it all... one that needs some changes in my opinion.

[Remission]

You are quite right about there being MUCH WORSE GOING ON all around that nobody chooses to notice.

For example in the UK there is a Specsavers advert on where a cat runs onto a football field where some men are playing, and one of the men kicks the cat into the air instead of the ball.  The punchline is, 'He should have gone to Specsavers' i.e. to get some proper glasses so he could see properly.

Depravity towards animals generally connotes a depraved character ... so a pet-abuser is just as depraved and soulless as somebody who cuts the throats of pigs in a slaughter-house.

As for Muslims and Jews, they positively INSIST that their meat be ritualistically and inhumanely slaughtered before they eat it.

The higher a person's racial bearings, the higher they hold animals in esteem and treat them fairly. 

[jman]

My opinion on the whole cat rubbish bin thing.

Mary Bale putting a cat into a rubbish bin - and worse stuff out there

I bet you'd be singing a different tune if that was your cat in the garbage bin for 15 hours 

[Aspergers Girl]

I bet you'd be singing a different tune if that was your cat in the garbage bin for 15 hours  

That I'd want them dead? Doubt it. I'd want them punished.  I'd have them in a bin for 15 hours to see how they liked it for a start.

The main reason was to point out the hypocrites that chew on dead cow (which has probably been tortured) then cry that this woman should be killed.

[Shiroi Tora]

That I'd want them dead? Doubt it. I'd want them punished.  I'd have them in a bin for 15 hours to see how they liked it for a start.

The main reason was to point out the hypocrites that chew on dead cow (which has probably been tortured) then cry that this woman should be killed.

I too...hate Hypocrisy...but I love beef more 

If we aren't to prioritize by intelligence in the killing of animals to sustain ourselves...then all animals are guilty of the same thing.  Even herbivores...plants are also life.  All fish eat other life.  The only truly innocent are those that photosynthesize...and even they sometimes kill other plants or even animals.

I do not like the idea of killing another animal...I do not get bothered by it so much if it is done in a humane manner...with the least amount of pain and suffering.  It was in the veiled and efficient manner...showing...the evil pleasure...that Mary Bale took in the act that was so appalling.  It was in the fact that there was no need for it....she had gone out of her way to set up the event. 

Sometime soon...I am sure...meat can be grown independently of animals (lab meat...not good now...economically nonviable) - or meat substitutes...textured soy.  Until then, how do you like your steak?   

[zenemu]

I'm amazed this story actually made such an impact, especially outside the UK. I suppose that is the power of youtube for you.

I agree, it was a nasty thing to have done, but I think the reaction has been completely out of proportion. On occasion I attend RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) prosecution cases as an independant mental health expert to ensure people with mental health issues have a fair interview when they are suspected of animal cruelty, and to be honest, this case normally would probably warrant nothing more than a samll fine and a slap on the wrists, that is if it was prosecuted at all.

I can see where Shiroi Tora is coming from here, it is  probably more about the method than the act, but when I see that video, I see a spare of the moment descision while she is stroking the cat, which suggests it is out of character rather than the norm.

[Aspergers Girl]

New one on aspies who are anti NT.

Aspergers people being bigoted against neurotypicals	LQ | HQ

[Shiroi Tora]

Obviously, I agree with you....I am NT   

However, what disturbs me most of someone who is blindly biased toward anything...is someone who...at least in that case...is not rational.  They don't think for themselves...they don't look at the evidence or the situation...which means they can easily be led astray.  They often are subjective when being objective is called for.  And...the scariest part....they VOTE   

Frequently, someone who refuses to think rationally...operates with subterfuge...forms cliques and uses political power plays instead of operating purely on merit in groups.  They frequently attempt to sabotage ideas because of who says it and not what is said. 

I've had some people at work attempt a biased statement...I call them on it...some react with anger...some with enlightenment...some actually change their...public behavior at least.

Bigotry is typically clung to by the willfully ignorant..it offers easy answers...no thought required.

There is one attribute often displayed by the bigot that is a plus...they often show their hand...making it easy to know who to stay away from.   

[Remission]

I love all of Jesus' children.

[zenemu]

I think this is a more genral issue. I often encounter people with varying disabilities, most of whom cope with whatever issues and get on with life. Occasionally however, I come across people who do have a bit of a chip on their shoulder and they do feel that "Normal" people look down on them or  that society owes them something. I think that this militant "Us" & "Them" mentality is a convenient means to remove responsibility for ones self and to place it on others or on society at large.

We also need to except is the simple concept of equality does NOT involve treating people the same, but rather giving people the same opportunites where possible. The outcome is more important than the means.

[MM]

My question WHY cant people JUST be accepted for who we are.  We are all human no matter what colour we are what brain wiring.  I hope we humans can one day evolve past the them and us and the labeling and learn to just love one another or just let bygones be bygones.  I have time for people who try to be nice to people and I have no time for manipulators and the like.

[MM]

Also with cows.  In america Temple grandin who has autism has revolutionised the whole cattle industry in the way that they are killed.  She has created far more humane ways of killing these animals.  and if somebody put my cat in the bin for fifteen hours I would probably shoot them starting with the knee caps.